catholic < - > protestant

this was a nice post posted by my friend edz in facebook... this was a chat conversation between him and his friend regarding the catholic faith and protestant faith....

the chat conversation gave me jolt to contemplate in my faith and be thankful of all the blessings i have in my life...

please note that I have nothing against the protestant faith in posting this and i truly respect where they stand... i just want to share this conversation between two friends who questions the Catholic faith, and take note of the respect they have with each other while they are chatting... a truly respectable indeed.... 

here’s their conversation...

Friend:                  pari ka pala

Friend:                  whehee

Edz:                      hindi ako pari

Friend:                  pwede mag ask?

Edz:                      ano yun pre

Friend:                  kaso baka magalit ka whehehee

Friend:                  kc doctrine ang aask ko whehehe

Edz:                      nagtatanong lang naman e

Edz:                      okay lang

Edz:                      open naman ako

Friend:                  cge

Friend:                  sharing tayo whehhe

Edz:                      okay

Friend:                  naniniwala ka sa bible?

Edz:                      siyempre

Edz:                      it is the basis of  truth

Friend:                  how many percent? 100% highest

Edz:                      110%

Friend:                  thats good

Friend:                  cge

Friend:                  so u mean lahat ng nasa bible naniniwala ka at sinusunod mo diba?

Friend:                  tama ba ako?

Edz:                      oo naman

Friend:                  e2 ha

Friend:                  sa totoo naman talaga catholic naman talaga karamihan satin eh

Edz:                      okay

Friend:                  pero naging catholic tayo hindi dahil alam natin na un ang tama....

Edz:                      but many of them sad to say, hindi nila alam ang kanilang pananampalataya

Friend:                  we became catholic kc dahil sa family natin... kung baga na adopt lang natin

Edz:                      okay

Friend:                  ayon sa history by force diba

Friend:                  the big issue kc sa catholic e ung idols

Edz:                      then...

Friend:                  they called it idols... ung mga santo

Edz:                      okay...

Friend:                  ano stand mo dyan.

 

Friend:                  Ex 20:3-4 (NIV) "You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below."

Edz:                     yan yung laging issue sa mga catholics,

Edz:                     but they are not god and they are not worshipped.

Friend:                 oo bro...

Friend:                 hmmmmmmmmmmmp

Friend:                 bakit my fiesta... kc birthday daw ng saint diba...

Edz:                     what we worship is the the triune god.

Edz:                     feasting is a celebration of heaven here on earth

Edz:                     kasi sa heaven daw, it is feasting in eternity with God

Friend:                 as far as i know bday un ng saith

Friend:                 i already search it weehhee

Edz:                     no, usually, we commemorate the death of the saints because we believe, it is the moment of thier birth in heaven

Edz:                    we give thanks to god kapag sine-celebrate namin ang feast ng isang santo dahil binigyan niya kami ng taong inspirasyon upang mabuhay nang naaayon sa kanyang kalooban.

Friend:                well its form of idolatry

Friend:                kc sabi wag ka magkakaroon...

Edz:                    to tell you honestly, i have come to a point of doubt in my faith, i even curse my faith but as i matured, i have come to realize that the fullness of truth is in the catholic faith, of course, there is also truth in other religions.

Friend:                well bro

Friend:                kc kasuklam suklam un kay GOD

Friend:                yang mga idols na yan

Edz:                    You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below." >>> malinaw naman ang pagkakasabi na you shall not create image na gagawing diyos, hindi naman namin diyos ang mga rebulto at images

Friend:                 e ano nyo sila

Friend:                 design?

Friend:                 meron pa kayo patron ng kagalingan.

Edz:                     did you know that in the time when the ark of covenant was made, nagpagawa ang diyos ng mga imahen ng anghel at kerubin bilang palamuti?

Friend:                 mga patron patron///

Edz:                     they are our inspiration, sila ang nagdadala sa amin sa taimtim na panalangin

Friend:                 nyak

Friend:                 JESUS IS ENOUGH

Friend:                 they all men

Edz:                     yes, christ is enough but we believe in the communion of the church

Edz:                     the communion of saints

Edz:                     we beleive na kaming lahat na narito sa lupa at sa langit ay magkakaugnay

Edz:                     saints are like our friends na tinatawagan namin upang samahan kami o ipagdasal kami sa diyos na nasa langit.

Edz:                      katulad ng paghingi mo ng panalangin sa iyong kaibigan kapag may problema ka

Edz:                      saints are members of the church triumphant, the church in heaven

Friend:                  basahin mo ung kwento ni lazaruz at nung mayaman

Friend:                  kapag namatay na ang isang tao khit anong dasal di na sya mahahango kung san man sya napunta

Friend:                  even c mary naging imahen nyo

Edz:                      yes i remember that story, yung mayaman ay nasa impiyerno? talagang kahit anong dasal ang gawin, hindi na talaga siya mahahango dun kasi nasa impyerno na

Friend:                  eh bakit pag may patay may padasal

Edz:                      okay, i will answer that>

Friend:                  pasyon ata un na sinasabi na hanguin nyo nawa ang kaluluwa something ganun

Edz:                      we beleieve in purgatory

Friend:                  SAN NAMAN UN SA BIBLE

Friend:                  theres no such thing as purgatory

Friend:                  kung baka in between ng heaven or hell whehhehee

Edz:                     you can read in the book of macabees which the prostestant church ay hindi kinikilala bilang isang canonical book na it is holy to pray for the dead.

Friend:                 search about it bro.

Edz:                     i have to ask you bro, nasaan napunta ang mga kaluluwa noong wala pa si kristo?

Friend:                 di kc sya aproved

Edz:                     nung wala pa si kristo, wala pang kaligtasan?

Edz:                     e di ang daming napariwara noon

Friend:                 SABI SA BIBLE SA HADES

Friend:                 NOOOOOOOOOH

Friend:                 I CANT REEDZMBER UNG VERSE

Friend:                 SAKA UNG MGA PRAYERS NYO PAULIT ULIT

Edz:                      aaminin ko man, hindi namin sinasaulo ang mga verses, because we read the bible by chapter or by stories

Friend:                  WHICH IS SA BIBLE AYAW NI GOD NG GANUN

Edz:                      i will also answer that question logically.

Edz:                      yung nasa bible na tinutukoy na paulit-ulit ay yung prayer na nagmumula lang sa labi, walang kabuluhang panalangin kasi hindi taos sa puso.

Edz:                      di ba mahal tayo ng diyos? yes or no?

Friend:                  OO NMAN MAHAL

Friend:                  JOHN 3:16

Edz:                      if your answer is yes, at kung mahal mo ang diyos, hindi ka magsasawang magsabi sa kanya ng "I LOVE YOU" at kung mahal ka ng taong pinagsasabihan mo, hindi rin siya magsasawang makining

Friend:                  wrong context ka naman

Edz:                      kahit paulit-ulit, ganun lang yun kasimple basta galing sa puso.

Friend:                  sya na nga nagsabi na ayw nya ng paulit ulit na prayer.

Friend:                  wheheee

Edz:                      ang tinutukoy na paulit-ulit ay yung prayer na nagmumula lang sa labi, walang kabuluhang panalangin kasi hindi taos sa puso

Edz:                      did you know that the rosary na sinasabi mong paulit-ulit ay nagdadala sa akin sa deep prayer to reflect on the life of jesus?

Friend:                  san sa bible?

Friend:                  pakita mo

Friend:                 saka ung pangungumpisal

Edz:                     well, i'm sorry, i am not well-versed sa mga verses sa bible, i am only answering you logically.

 

Friend:                  basta daming teaching na puro tradition lang... di sya naka base sa bible.

Friend:                  anyway bro

Friend:                  wala naman din namn sinabi sa bible kung anong religion ang makakapagligtas

Friend:                  its our relationship with him

Edz:                      well, that is the beauty of my church, you cannot understand why and what is it written without studying the tradition of the early christians and the jews.

Friend:                  John 3:3 (New International Version, ©2010)

     3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.

Edz:                      catholics are born again in spirit when they are baptized. kaya hindi ko lubos maisip bakit born again christians ang claim ng mga ibang christians samantalang catholics are "born again in spirit"

Friend:                  Romans 3:23 (New International Version, ©2010)

    for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Edz:                     tama naman

Edz:                     tama naman di ba

Friend:                 basta bro maraming conflicts sa doctrine ng catholic pag binasa mo bible

Friend:                 sa bagy kanya kanya naman tayo

Edz:                     kasi you read it as is and failed to consider the question: "why it is written."

Friend:                 wehhehehee

Friend:                 meron pang faith sa bible na niluhuran sya pero sinaway nya ung taong lumuhod sa kanya sabi nya tao lang ako...

Friend:                 bro thanks sa pag sagot mo ng question ko ha

Friend:                 ganda ng topic natin whehehe

Friend:                 kaso need to rest

Friend:                 mag church ako maya eh

- end of conversation -

I am a catholic, though i lack the mastery in bible verses, i believe and follow the teachings of the catholic church... its faith... and its doctrine... sometimes i feel that i may disagree to where my religion stands, but i still believe that my religion is still the one that guides me and gives me the wisdom and understanding in times of my need and despair...

you may not agree with me, but just remember, there are still questions in this world that cant be answered by science.... 

at the end, I will always believe in the FATHER, and of the SON and of the HOLY SPIRIT. AMEN.

credits: except for the last photo, all photos are from yahoo.com